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		<title>Comment on Wealth, wants, needs, &#8230; and stewardship. by Ammon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ammon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill,

Thank you for your comments.  I appreciate the feedback and input.

A couple of things about your opening comments, and then I&#039;ll comment a little on your article.

I don&#039;t know about you, but I care about my children.  I receive a great deal of personal satisfaction from being their father.  This is only a portion of what I get in return for providing for their needs and raising them.  Often people make the mistake of thinking that the only things that count in exchange are the physical and tangible things.  Sometimes they extend to the visible services, but usually they only count they physical things when measuring any given exchange.  For example, in this medium of a blog there is a definite exchange.  I presented some ideas in a blog post.  You offered your comments in exchange.  I value that, so I am responding with my own comments.  Both of us, I hope, are growing from the experience.  I know that I always grow whenever I have an exchange with other people.  Making sure that everyone you help is creating value in return does not mean that they have to give you something tangible, or render some visible service.

On your article:

I think there is a fundamental difference between how you define capitalism and how I define it.  If I understand you correctly, you define capitalism as the system of economics in which the rich abuse and neglect the poor, indulge their own gratification at the expense of everyone else simply because they were lucky enough to be wealthy.  Let me know if that is incorrect.

I define Capitalism as the economic system in which private property rights are honored and respected.  The desire for self-improvement is recognized as the fundamental motivation in all human action and the basis of acting on faith.  I don&#039;t see Exploitation, greed, and vanity as compatible with Capitalism, though they are some of the areas in which those who strive to live by the ideals of Capitalism seem to struggle the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  I appreciate the feedback and input.</p>
<p>A couple of things about your opening comments, and then I&#8217;ll comment a little on your article.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I care about my children.  I receive a great deal of personal satisfaction from being their father.  This is only a portion of what I get in return for providing for their needs and raising them.  Often people make the mistake of thinking that the only things that count in exchange are the physical and tangible things.  Sometimes they extend to the visible services, but usually they only count they physical things when measuring any given exchange.  For example, in this medium of a blog there is a definite exchange.  I presented some ideas in a blog post.  You offered your comments in exchange.  I value that, so I am responding with my own comments.  Both of us, I hope, are growing from the experience.  I know that I always grow whenever I have an exchange with other people.  Making sure that everyone you help is creating value in return does not mean that they have to give you something tangible, or render some visible service.</p>
<p>On your article:</p>
<p>I think there is a fundamental difference between how you define capitalism and how I define it.  If I understand you correctly, you define capitalism as the system of economics in which the rich abuse and neglect the poor, indulge their own gratification at the expense of everyone else simply because they were lucky enough to be wealthy.  Let me know if that is incorrect.</p>
<p>I define Capitalism as the economic system in which private property rights are honored and respected.  The desire for self-improvement is recognized as the fundamental motivation in all human action and the basis of acting on faith.  I don&#8217;t see Exploitation, greed, and vanity as compatible with Capitalism, though they are some of the areas in which those who strive to live by the ideals of Capitalism seem to struggle the most.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wealth, wants, needs, &#8230; and stewardship. by Jill Barraclough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Barraclough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I would share a few thoughts with you and an article I wrote. One problem with your argument above, we give our children lots of things for nothing, its not bad stewardship its only bad for them if we spoil them excessively and give them everything they want.  As if we are their parents we provide for them.  Just like people living in poor countries need a step up sometimes to break through the poverty cycle, rescuing people is not always a bad thing as often when someone is in a really bad position (through little fault of their own) they will really appreciate it and go on to help many hundreds of others through gratitude.  Its easy for people sitting in Europe and the US to say this we all benefit from free education, free water and a variety of other free services provided through fiscal systems. Some countries do not have that infrastructure so you can&#039;t apply that theory with a blanket application. 

Capitalism : The New God

Trinity:


Individual Satisfaction - Father
Exploitation - Son
Purchasing power - Holy Spirit


10 Commandments

* I will make sure I maximise my profits at the cost of everything else
* Individual satisfaction must be 100% satisified even if it means I cheat on my marriage, destroy my childrens lives and end up divorced
* Exploit whoever you can for whatever you can, its survival of the fittest
* You are what you can afford
* Love thy cheap goods even if you don’t know they came from a child sweat shop
* Thou shall not worship false Gods: socialism, communism, et al
* Thou shall be faithful and not lie with another man&#039;s wife unless our wife failed to deliver for a few days or I see someone else I want in the street round the corner, like the latest purchase from that tv store down the road I just had to have as it was 50 inches wide not 45 like the one I have already.
* Individual success and power are everything crush all enemies that stand in your way.
* Avoid giving money to charity it is rescuing and people should be responsible for their own problems even if they are not self inflicted or were originally caused by our neoliberal economic and political policies.
* Lend support to wars and support dictators if there is cheap oil or cheap access to valuable resources to be gained as our country has to be the most wealthy and powerful.


New Testament Most Important of all these Commands not love thy neighbour :

Love myself and everyone else can have the breadcrumbs that fall from my table


12 Disciples – Enablers, Message Delivery Systems, Promoters

* World Bank &amp; IMF
* Companies that exploit developing nation producers with low and unfair prices
* Advertisements that promote materialism with irresponsible marketing messages
* Pride
* Greed
* Ego
* Vanity
* Banks that don’t support and help small businesses, yet provide huge overdraft facilities to big organisations who really do not need that support .
* Lenders who throw credit cards at people that they can’t afford to have or use
* Banks that wont lend to people who actually need the money and provide the financial support they are supposed to so these people turn to loan sharks and charge huge profitable fees for bounced Direct Debits and unauthorised overdrafts.
* Politicians with delusions of grandeur that want to control the world
* Judas Iscariot – Enlightened invididuals that try to inform people (whistleblowers)


The Evil One

Devil - Socialism and anything resembling socialist systems


Lord’s Prayer

Our Individual Satisfaction

That art all over the world
Hallowed be thy buy one get one free
Thy autumn sales come, Thy supreme shopping experience be done
On earth as it is in the stores
Forgive us for missing the winter sales and we will forgive the stores for closing on Sundays
Give this day our daily buying
Lead us into cheating, sleeping around and not looking after our children
Let us not be tempted to really care about other people
Deliver us from socialism
For thine be the kingdom, the power and the glory, for as long as we practice this awful economic concept

Amen



Note: writers note this is a criticism of capitalism in an attempt to make a few points and is no way shape or form supposed to represent the real bible and the Word of God within it.

Copyright @ Jill Barraclough 2009 Please feel free to circulate this article with the copyright notice, authors name, contact details and Note above included. Writer can be contacted @ loventruth@hotmail.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or jillb@jillb.me This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ,  or website is www.jillb.me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I would share a few thoughts with you and an article I wrote. One problem with your argument above, we give our children lots of things for nothing, its not bad stewardship its only bad for them if we spoil them excessively and give them everything they want.  As if we are their parents we provide for them.  Just like people living in poor countries need a step up sometimes to break through the poverty cycle, rescuing people is not always a bad thing as often when someone is in a really bad position (through little fault of their own) they will really appreciate it and go on to help many hundreds of others through gratitude.  Its easy for people sitting in Europe and the US to say this we all benefit from free education, free water and a variety of other free services provided through fiscal systems. Some countries do not have that infrastructure so you can&#8217;t apply that theory with a blanket application. </p>
<p>Capitalism : The New God</p>
<p>Trinity:</p>
<p>Individual Satisfaction &#8211; Father<br />
Exploitation &#8211; Son<br />
Purchasing power &#8211; Holy Spirit</p>
<p>10 Commandments</p>
<p>* I will make sure I maximise my profits at the cost of everything else<br />
* Individual satisfaction must be 100% satisified even if it means I cheat on my marriage, destroy my childrens lives and end up divorced<br />
* Exploit whoever you can for whatever you can, its survival of the fittest<br />
* You are what you can afford<br />
* Love thy cheap goods even if you don’t know they came from a child sweat shop<br />
* Thou shall not worship false Gods: socialism, communism, et al<br />
* Thou shall be faithful and not lie with another man&#8217;s wife unless our wife failed to deliver for a few days or I see someone else I want in the street round the corner, like the latest purchase from that tv store down the road I just had to have as it was 50 inches wide not 45 like the one I have already.<br />
* Individual success and power are everything crush all enemies that stand in your way.<br />
* Avoid giving money to charity it is rescuing and people should be responsible for their own problems even if they are not self inflicted or were originally caused by our neoliberal economic and political policies.<br />
* Lend support to wars and support dictators if there is cheap oil or cheap access to valuable resources to be gained as our country has to be the most wealthy and powerful.</p>
<p>New Testament Most Important of all these Commands not love thy neighbour :</p>
<p>Love myself and everyone else can have the breadcrumbs that fall from my table</p>
<p>12 Disciples – Enablers, Message Delivery Systems, Promoters</p>
<p>* World Bank &amp; IMF<br />
* Companies that exploit developing nation producers with low and unfair prices<br />
* Advertisements that promote materialism with irresponsible marketing messages<br />
* Pride<br />
* Greed<br />
* Ego<br />
* Vanity<br />
* Banks that don’t support and help small businesses, yet provide huge overdraft facilities to big organisations who really do not need that support .<br />
* Lenders who throw credit cards at people that they can’t afford to have or use<br />
* Banks that wont lend to people who actually need the money and provide the financial support they are supposed to so these people turn to loan sharks and charge huge profitable fees for bounced Direct Debits and unauthorised overdrafts.<br />
* Politicians with delusions of grandeur that want to control the world<br />
* Judas Iscariot – Enlightened invididuals that try to inform people (whistleblowers)</p>
<p>The Evil One</p>
<p>Devil &#8211; Socialism and anything resembling socialist systems</p>
<p>Lord’s Prayer</p>
<p>Our Individual Satisfaction</p>
<p>That art all over the world<br />
Hallowed be thy buy one get one free<br />
Thy autumn sales come, Thy supreme shopping experience be done<br />
On earth as it is in the stores<br />
Forgive us for missing the winter sales and we will forgive the stores for closing on Sundays<br />
Give this day our daily buying<br />
Lead us into cheating, sleeping around and not looking after our children<br />
Let us not be tempted to really care about other people<br />
Deliver us from socialism<br />
For thine be the kingdom, the power and the glory, for as long as we practice this awful economic concept</p>
<p>Amen</p>
<p>Note: writers note this is a criticism of capitalism in an attempt to make a few points and is no way shape or form supposed to represent the real bible and the Word of God within it.</p>
<p>Copyright @ Jill Barraclough 2009 Please feel free to circulate this article with the copyright notice, authors name, contact details and Note above included. Writer can be contacted @ <a href="mailto:loventruth@hotmail.com">loventruth@hotmail.com</a> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or <a href="mailto:jillb@jillb.me">jillb@jillb.me</a> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ,  or website is <a href="http://www.jillb.me" rel="nofollow">http://www.jillb.me</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federalist 4 by Federalist 4 &#171; Spiffy thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Federalist 4 &#171; Spiffy thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Our Greatest Fear and our Great Potential by Ammon</title>
		<link>http://spiffy3.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/our-greatest-fear-and-our-great-potential/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Ammon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to be in contact with you again.  I hope you&#039;ll take a look at the rest of what I&#039;ve written.  I always appreciate a new set of eyes to give feedback - criticisms, praise - I welcome it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to be in contact with you again.  I hope you&#8217;ll take a look at the rest of what I&#8217;ve written.  I always appreciate a new set of eyes to give feedback &#8211; criticisms, praise &#8211; I welcome it all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Greatest Fear and our Great Potential by Tamera DeRushia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamera DeRushia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. Thank you for inviting me to read this. I can always appreciate someone thinking beyond the words, beyond the mindset, I&#039;m not as eloquent in my words and may not even spell as good as I once did. But believe it or not, I tend to believe that there is one basic truth that many will perceive differently. I also believe that no one is ever truely lost. You should give lectures, if you haven&#039;t already. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. Thank you for inviting me to read this. I can always appreciate someone thinking beyond the words, beyond the mindset, I&#8217;m not as eloquent in my words and may not even spell as good as I once did. But believe it or not, I tend to believe that there is one basic truth that many will perceive differently. I also believe that no one is ever truely lost. You should give lectures, if you haven&#8217;t already. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Federalist 1 by Ammon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ammon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll see if I can make it easier to find.  Have you read through &lt;a href=&quot;http://spiffy3.wordpress.com/federalist-papers/federalist-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federalist 2&lt;/a&gt; as well?

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can make it easier to find.  Have you read through <a href="http://spiffy3.wordpress.com/federalist-papers/federalist-2/" rel="nofollow">Federalist 2</a> as well?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federalist 1 by Onika Nugent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onika Nugent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  It&#039;s more interesting with the definitions and your comments.  It was hard for me to find this page though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  It&#8217;s more interesting with the definitions and your comments.  It was hard for me to find this page though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching by example by Stephenie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s amazing what a good venting session does for the psyche. by Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I deleted the contents of this comment before it was posted because it was made by an anonymous individual who posted a fictitious email address and it contained what could be considered libelous statements about someone unaffiliated with this blog.

FTR - if you want to post a comment on my blog, use an actual email address so that I can contact you if I have concerns about the content.

Ammon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deleted the contents of this comment before it was posted because it was made by an anonymous individual who posted a fictitious email address and it contained what could be considered libelous statements about someone unaffiliated with this blog.</p>
<p>FTR &#8211; if you want to post a comment on my blog, use an actual email address so that I can contact you if I have concerns about the content.</p>
<p>Ammon</p>
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		<dc:creator>heyjason95</dc:creator>
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		<description>I would agree with you.  Currency/money etc is just a medium of exchange that facilitates value creation.  As a thing it carries no intrinsic value except in representing or being a substitute of the HLV a person is creating.  As part of that, assuming no deception or coercion, by me purchasing something, I have engaged in exchange or creation of value with another person and am receiving something that I value more.  So, although on one level it is a consumptive task, it can also be a significant creator of value for the people involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with you.  Currency/money etc is just a medium of exchange that facilitates value creation.  As a thing it carries no intrinsic value except in representing or being a substitute of the HLV a person is creating.  As part of that, assuming no deception or coercion, by me purchasing something, I have engaged in exchange or creation of value with another person and am receiving something that I value more.  So, although on one level it is a consumptive task, it can also be a significant creator of value for the people involved.</p>
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