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Wealth, wants, needs, … and stewardship.

Posted by Ammon on April 16, 2009

I have recently been reading a bit of Aristotle and find some of his conclusions interesting – though dead wrong.  I really enjoy reading people with whom I disagree.  I have the highest occurrences of epiphanies when I do.  For instance, in Politics, Book I, he talks about the art of money-making.  I don’t rember what exactly it was that he said that got my mind pondering it, but it got me thinking about what material wealth is.  It must have been a combination of reading Aristotle and something I heard on a FEE podcast recently – something about nobody saves just for the sake of saving money.  They are always saving for something they want – either a new toy, an unexpected expense or emergency, or something else.  It’s never just for the sake of saving.  I’m not sure on the complete accuracy of that claim, but it did get me thinking about savings, and wealth generation.

I think the most accurate definition of wealth that I came up with is that wealth is the state in which one has the resources to supply all of their own needs and just wants, and enough to provide for the wants and needs of others.  People have two choices to supply their needs and just wants.  They can provide it for themselves, or they can exchange with someone else for it.  This is the basic roots of any society – a co-dependency on the productive capacity of other people.  The problem then arises when either someone else has some good or service that you want, but they don’t really care to have the good or service that you offer; or vice-versa – someone else wants a good or service that you offer, and you don’t really want or need what they have to offer.  This is the beginnings of the concept of money.  Instead of making an exchange for things which we didn’t need or want, we exchanged for a generally accepted form of currency.  It was something that was generally accepted as payment for goods and services.  It increased exchange, but also created the difficulties of erroneous ideas about the nature of money.

Before I go further, when I say “just wants” I mean those things which are not necessary for subsistence, but which are reasonable to want – meaning that the want does not tend toward excess, or idleness, causes no harm to anyone else, and does not hinder one’s ability to be productive.  Wanting something that fits this definition is what I call a just want.  This is how I understand the scripture D&C 82:17

And you are to be equal, or in other words, you are to have equal claims on the properties, for the benefit of managing the concerns of your stewardships, every man according to his wants and his needs, inasmuch as his wants are just.

In order to avoid tedium, I’ll use the term wants when I mean just wants as explained above.

Many people would then decide not to exchange, but the astute individual will not only be looking for goods and services which will supply their own needs and just wants, but the needs and just wants of others.  Even if they don’t need or justly want what is offered in exchange for their services, if what is offered is something that other people need or justly want, they could be of service to other people who may not have the relationship with the provider of those goods and services.

Exchange is a very interesting thing.  You can learn a lot about an individual by observing the exchanges in which they participate.  The exchanges do not have to involve money in order to tell you about the person, in fact money has the effect of obscuring the value being exchanged because it is often mistaken for actual value, instead of the place holder of value created in the past.

Going back to the topic of exchanging for something that you yourself may not need or want, because you feel it is something others may need or want.  When we do this, there is wealth created.  We now have more than enough to provide for our own wants and needs, but we also have enough to provide for the wants and needs of others.

Some people take this to a coclusion that if you have more than your needs, that you have some duty to give it away for nothing to those who are not in as beneficial circumstances.  I disagree.  Getting something for nothing is not only damaging, but if taken literally, it is actually impossible.  You always give up something when you gain something else.  If an individual receives something without giving something in return, they’re character is damaged.  Their self-confidence that they can provide for themselves is damaged.  The stewardship over the exchange is both that of the giver and the receiver.  To be good stewards over our charitable giving, we must do our best to ensure that the other party is not being damaged by receiving something for nothing.

2 Responses to “Wealth, wants, needs, … and stewardship.”

  1. Just thought I would share a few thoughts with you and an article I wrote. One problem with your argument above, we give our children lots of things for nothing, its not bad stewardship its only bad for them if we spoil them excessively and give them everything they want. As if we are their parents we provide for them. Just like people living in poor countries need a step up sometimes to break through the poverty cycle, rescuing people is not always a bad thing as often when someone is in a really bad position (through little fault of their own) they will really appreciate it and go on to help many hundreds of others through gratitude. Its easy for people sitting in Europe and the US to say this we all benefit from free education, free water and a variety of other free services provided through fiscal systems. Some countries do not have that infrastructure so you can’t apply that theory with a blanket application.

    Capitalism : The New God

    Trinity:

    Individual Satisfaction – Father
    Exploitation – Son
    Purchasing power – Holy Spirit

    10 Commandments

    * I will make sure I maximise my profits at the cost of everything else
    * Individual satisfaction must be 100% satisified even if it means I cheat on my marriage, destroy my childrens lives and end up divorced
    * Exploit whoever you can for whatever you can, its survival of the fittest
    * You are what you can afford
    * Love thy cheap goods even if you don’t know they came from a child sweat shop
    * Thou shall not worship false Gods: socialism, communism, et al
    * Thou shall be faithful and not lie with another man’s wife unless our wife failed to deliver for a few days or I see someone else I want in the street round the corner, like the latest purchase from that tv store down the road I just had to have as it was 50 inches wide not 45 like the one I have already.
    * Individual success and power are everything crush all enemies that stand in your way.
    * Avoid giving money to charity it is rescuing and people should be responsible for their own problems even if they are not self inflicted or were originally caused by our neoliberal economic and political policies.
    * Lend support to wars and support dictators if there is cheap oil or cheap access to valuable resources to be gained as our country has to be the most wealthy and powerful.

    New Testament Most Important of all these Commands not love thy neighbour :

    Love myself and everyone else can have the breadcrumbs that fall from my table

    12 Disciples – Enablers, Message Delivery Systems, Promoters

    * World Bank & IMF
    * Companies that exploit developing nation producers with low and unfair prices
    * Advertisements that promote materialism with irresponsible marketing messages
    * Pride
    * Greed
    * Ego
    * Vanity
    * Banks that don’t support and help small businesses, yet provide huge overdraft facilities to big organisations who really do not need that support .
    * Lenders who throw credit cards at people that they can’t afford to have or use
    * Banks that wont lend to people who actually need the money and provide the financial support they are supposed to so these people turn to loan sharks and charge huge profitable fees for bounced Direct Debits and unauthorised overdrafts.
    * Politicians with delusions of grandeur that want to control the world
    * Judas Iscariot – Enlightened invididuals that try to inform people (whistleblowers)

    The Evil One

    Devil – Socialism and anything resembling socialist systems

    Lord’s Prayer

    Our Individual Satisfaction

    That art all over the world
    Hallowed be thy buy one get one free
    Thy autumn sales come, Thy supreme shopping experience be done
    On earth as it is in the stores
    Forgive us for missing the winter sales and we will forgive the stores for closing on Sundays
    Give this day our daily buying
    Lead us into cheating, sleeping around and not looking after our children
    Let us not be tempted to really care about other people
    Deliver us from socialism
    For thine be the kingdom, the power and the glory, for as long as we practice this awful economic concept

    Amen

    Note: writers note this is a criticism of capitalism in an attempt to make a few points and is no way shape or form supposed to represent the real bible and the Word of God within it.

    Copyright @ Jill Barraclough 2009 Please feel free to circulate this article with the copyright notice, authors name, contact details and Note above included. Writer can be contacted @ loventruth@hotmail.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or jillb@jillb.me This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or website is http://www.jillb.me.

    • Ammon said

      Jill,

      Thank you for your comments. I appreciate the feedback and input.

      A couple of things about your opening comments, and then I’ll comment a little on your article.

      I don’t know about you, but I care about my children. I receive a great deal of personal satisfaction from being their father. This is only a portion of what I get in return for providing for their needs and raising them. Often people make the mistake of thinking that the only things that count in exchange are the physical and tangible things. Sometimes they extend to the visible services, but usually they only count they physical things when measuring any given exchange. For example, in this medium of a blog there is a definite exchange. I presented some ideas in a blog post. You offered your comments in exchange. I value that, so I am responding with my own comments. Both of us, I hope, are growing from the experience. I know that I always grow whenever I have an exchange with other people. Making sure that everyone you help is creating value in return does not mean that they have to give you something tangible, or render some visible service.

      On your article:

      I think there is a fundamental difference between how you define capitalism and how I define it. If I understand you correctly, you define capitalism as the system of economics in which the rich abuse and neglect the poor, indulge their own gratification at the expense of everyone else simply because they were lucky enough to be wealthy. Let me know if that is incorrect.

      I define Capitalism as the economic system in which private property rights are honored and respected. The desire for self-improvement is recognized as the fundamental motivation in all human action and the basis of acting on faith. I don’t see Exploitation, greed, and vanity as compatible with Capitalism, though they are some of the areas in which those who strive to live by the ideals of Capitalism seem to struggle the most.

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